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James Towill Post subject: Marvin, Welch and Farrar
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Meant to post about this a couple of months back. Dennis has mentioned this act in a previous post, and I've seen references to them in 'Carousel'. Their two albums, plus some bonus cuts were released on a 2CD pack by BGO Records a month or two back. The sleevenotes have references to MW&F having harmonies like the Hollies/CSN and recording the same type of material, and indeed, some tunes are very like the Rickfors period and one of the tracks even features the electric sitar. Well worth checking out this collection, there's some pap in there, but mostly some superb songs.

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Marvin, Welch & Farrar:
You're Burning Bridges - A Thousand Conversations - Brownie Kentucky - My Home Town - Silvery Rain - Throw Down A Line - Baby I'm Calling You - Faithful - Mistress Fate & Father Time - Take Her Away - Wish You Were Here - Mr. Sun

Second Opinion:
Black Eyes - Tiny Robin - Simplify Your Head - Ronnie - Far Away Falling - Let's Say Goodbye - Lonesome Mole - Thank Heavens I've Got You - Lady Of The Morning - The Time To Care - Come Back To Nature - All Day, All Night Blues Bonus tracks: Marmaduke - Strike A Light - Music Makes My Day - Skin Deep - Galadriel (Spirit Of Starlight) - Small And Lonely Light


2 ON 1 CD With the disbanding of The Shadows at the end of the 60's, Hank Marvin and Bruce Welch joined forces with New Zealand songwriter John Farrar to form vocal group Marvin, Welch & Farrar Influenced by Crosby, Stills & Nash, this package includes all material recorded by MW&F including A and B sides Digitally remastered, slip-cased and with new sleevenotes Ads in Record Collector

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Thanks for the info, James! That sounds very interesting, I think I will get me this CD. Of the songs I only know "Throw Down A Line" but only the Cliff Richard version which I really like.
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Their debut LP is the real gem, but the second LP has its moments as well. Every Hollies fan should hear this short-lived group, whose thrilling harmony vocals are on a par with The Hollies.
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Thank you, James, for this interesting information. I read your post about Melvin, Welch & Farrar and bought the 2 CD Pack immediately afterwards on Ebay.
I have all the Hollies recordings and all the recordings CSN released as a trio. The harmony singing of this trio is equally great. It's a shame that MW&F only survived for this short time. To be famous in another group sometimes is a real curse. The songs and harmonies are great.
I especially like "Faithful". The echo on the harmony vocals sounds overwhelmingly beautiful. I can't take the CDs out of my CD player. Without you I would never have heard of this trio.
So, THANK YOU again for this information. Very Happy
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benny-b-goode wrote:
Thank you, James, for this interesting information.


You're very welcome! It is great music, isn't it? I've lent my copy to a friend to have a listen to it, I'll find out what he thinks on Friday.

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Thought I would move this post up again, as it was Geoff, in writing for 'Carousel' who brought this group to my attention. Having a listen to MW&F just now. Amazing stuff.

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Gee Post subject: Marvin Welch & Farrar....
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M,W & F (not quite as easy as CSN !) literally "stepped from The Shadows" when the famous Instrumental (and also occasionally vocal ! ) group first split up at the tail end of the Sixties...
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James Towill Post subject:
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Geoff does it again! Great review of that period. The live Shads album you talk about, is that the one which is available as a DVD/CD set with a red cover? Think it's just been reissued by Eagle Records?

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I have the live Shadows DVD, they were really good singers, John Farrar is an Australian and was in a group called the Strangers. He is now married to Pat Carroll who sung with ONJ in the 60's. John has done a lot of work with Cliff Richard also.

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Gee Post subject: Shadows Final Tour...and Earlier...CD's..
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Yes that is the abum ( & DVD), they pay a nice tribute to all the various "eras" of their long career, doing the two M W & F songs...a group of hits they wrote for Cliff plus their own hits and favorites as The Shadows from 1960 to 1990.(CD Eagle EDGCD 283 - 2CD Set, there is also a CD/DVD Set too))
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Interesting thread. I enjoy the Final tour DVD by Shadows immensely. Now I'll jump over to amazon uk's web site and order the two M W & F albums. Thanks for the tip!

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Knut wrote:
Interesting thread. I enjoy the Final tour DVD by Shadows immensely. Now I'll jump over to amazon uk's web site and order the two M W & F albums. Thanks for the tip!


Bought the DVD/2CD set of the Final Tour. Absolutely superb. Great players and superbly recorded.

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Gee Post subject: The Final Cliff / Shadows studio album...
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EMI have just issued an expanded "remastered" version of the 1968 Final
Studio Album by Cliff Richard / The Shadows: "Established 1958" ( EMI 0948 3 81968 2 2 ).
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BGO Records have just released the follow up, '73's Marvin & Farrar - check it out:
http://www.bgo-records.com/new_releases.htm#11

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Hi James,

I have to thank you again. Without you I would never have taken notice of M,W &F and their two great albums. "Faithful" still is one of those songs that touches me the most of all the songs I know. How great the chorus sounds and their harmony vocals.

Now you have informed us about a third album with Marvin & Farrar. I didn't know about the existence of that third album before you have told us here about the BGO release. After I have read your post I have ordered a copy of that CD immediately. I have listened to it five times and I love that album as I do the other two ones. Great songs and great harmony vocals again. It sounds, as if Bruce Welch wasn't missing on that particular album.

My favourite songs are "Music Makes My Day" (nice melody), "If I Rewrote Yesterdays" (again a nice melody played in a folk style), "Galadriel" (interesting arrangement), "Love Oh Love" (nice mixture of a ballad and rock elements), "Small And Lonely Light" (nice song and great harmonies) and "You Never Can Tell" (my favourite song; great piano playing on it; very atmospheric song). I really love that album. So, thanks to you again, James.

BUT I found a mistake on the first double CD release on BGO. There are four Bonus tracks taken from that third album and the last track's name is "Small And Lonely Light" although it actually is "Help Me Onto Your Wagon". But who cares ? Thanks to BGO Records for the reissue of those great albums. Everytime I listen to those albums I get sad that there aren't more vocal releases of MArvin, Welch & Farrar. Those albums are a MUST for every Hollies fan, I think.
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